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As a former member of well-known bands like the Tannahill Weavers or Silly Wizard, and since 1983 as a soloist, Dougie MacLean -singer, songwriter, producer- has become "one of Scotland's most talented and popular music ambassadors".

  However his latest and first tour in Spain wasn't very much noticed though memorable songs like "These broken Wings won't Fly", "Ready for the Storm" or "Caledonia" could be heard in these concerts. We spoke with him about some aspects of his work and about Scottish music.

   BNM: What's the role of Scottish roots within the framework of your music?

   Dougie MacLean: It's very important. Someone once told me that the tradition is not necesarily the material, is the spirit of one to sing and one need to make music, which is the great tradition which we have in Scotland, we have these great tradition in wanting to sing and play fiddle and music. I sing with my grandfather who sings gaelic songs, very ancient songs; my songs are much more contemporary, but my slower songs are still very much in that way of gaelic songs. So it's very important, it's a very big part of it.

   BNM: How do you compose your lyrics and songs?

   DM: I do it all at the same time; I record, I make the songs and the music altogether. It's a magical thing, something I don't even know how it happens, all of a sudden it's there... I do not write as if someone said to me "I want you to write a song about that bottle of beer", I wouldn't do that, it has to be something which means something to me, at the time, because I can't always enjoy singing it, like a mechanichal songs.
   I'd like to think that that was part of the tradition as well, the people who wrote their own songs, and there were no charts, there was no music industry, there were no hit singles, they wrote songs from their hearts, of something that was happening in their work in that day; and I like to think that so is how I compose my songs, they're not made for audiences really, they're made for myself.
   You can see my whole life in all these records. It's a kind of cut of all the things that go through your head over the years, it's very interesting to look back at the old songs and see how much your ideas may have changed since you wrote the song. It's an interesting process, you could do an University thesis on it, on the actual process of putting your life down in songs.

   BNM: Which, among all the versions lots of artists have done of your songs, do you like most?

   DM: (buffs and a makes a pause) There was a group called Galleria, they did a version of a song of mine called "She loves me (when I try)" and it is the only version of my songs that I really really wanted to have; I said "Jesus, it sounds as the same song that I wrote!", they improved so much just in the way that they did it... They're an Irish group. But there many other groups which have made versions that people like, Mary Black, De Daanan, a very famous country singer [Kathy Mattea] made a couple of versions of my songs, but these group Galleria made a version... Normally it's difficult to hear other people sing my songs, it's a good privilege and a compliment, but it never sounds the same to me. But this one was actually better than the way I had it, and that is a great thing, a great thing. Galleria: they're an acoustic, folk, maybe more poplike, with a good singer.

   BNM: What do you think about the young Scottish musicians and groups appearing nowadays?

   DM: There are a lot of good Scottish groups around, but sometimes I think maybe they follow too much the fashion; they should be more corageous to be themselves. Suddenly, it's became a kind of fashion within pop music; it's a very dangeous thing when a lot of the younger bands see it more like the rock band scene and can be dangerous too because they start to think along in a more kind of corporate image, which is happening in Scotland and it's a real shame. But there are some great bands, some great players, that as long as they don't want to be like the rock and roll fashion too much, they're safe.
   There is a danger, because there is the rock band, and the folk band, and the rock band are doing things this way, so the young folk band wants to do things like the rock band, with all the publicity and the height, and you loose the integrity. It's fashionable one year and the next year is not fashionable, and it's a mistake, you have to stay away from fashion, because it goes in and out, in and out and so many things get broken because of fashion...

   BNM: Which Scottish and Celtic artists or groups would you recommend?

   DM: Hmm... It's a difficult questions... kind of personal...pass onto the next...

  BNM: Do you think somehow celtic music is related to an independist cause of the so-called "celtic nations"?

   DM: Yes, it's very much so. Now in Scotland we have a very big independence movement, that's been helped along by the music. I was involved in groups when I was very young, in my late teens, and at that time playing fiddle, playing in traditional bands wasn´t a very appreciated thing, and we all helped by playing traditional music and songs to regain, to give confidence to the Scottish people; whenever there is a political change music goes with the political change, helping people to indentify themselves and have confidence in theirselves.
   'Cause for many years we've been part of that colonnial thing, and we came to be embarrased to be Scottish. The image of Scottish people abroad is with the kelt, we're supposed to be very mean, we don't spend any money... you get an image of yourself that you don't like, and young people feel embarrased , but that's changing, there's a lot of people connecting with the real expression and the real art of the culture and with that growing confident.

  BNM: Have you found many links between the country American style and celtic music?

   DM: Yes, there are connections; because so many Scottish and Irish people went to America, the older country music has many origins in Scottish and Irish music. They naturally took their music with them and mixed it with the music of all the people there; so country music is a mixture of everything. There's also a lot of crap, there's a lot of terrible country music, but there's also very good stuff, when you look underneath the corporate record company stuff and all that nonsense... and at the old kind of country music, Hank Williams, the origins of country music you recognise more the Scottish and Irish ballad, the connection easier than if you look at country music now, wich is a big industry, it's the same song that keeps singing and singing.

 

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